I agree with you Tracy its all doom and gloom I dread listening to the news.
The joke room is brilliant though ive just spent hour there.
I like the bar as well the humour seems to spill over.

Georgia...we all are hypocrites...none of us went to the forest saying no to the new inventions, but for me thats not the point! of course we cant bring back time nd stop using the machines,cars,planes nd all which is called to be so so wrong .. im living in Ireland..my parents are in Bulgaria...i have relatives in russia..in sibir..shall i take a horse to go there??it ll truly take me life time for a trip like that ) however..i believe its possible that we can make some kind of symbiosis with mother nature..simply we should try to respect her more ! we will never know the whole truth from those who know more about global warming ..nobody tells u the truth.

Ekaterina, it is true. We do need to find a balance. and since we do not know the truth it behooves us to study the subject if we truly care about it. We should learn about Global Dynamics, weather patterns, biology, evolution. We should listen the the brightest scientists who are not on a big government payroll. We should do all the common sense stuff that we know is the right thing to do.

You are correct. Do not trust scientists who are on a corporations or governments payroll. You have to trust the independent ones. The ones with all the money will call these guys crazy. Some probably are but others are probably right on the money smart! So how do we know which is which?

The best way, if you truly care, is to learn about science as much s possible. to really pay attention to the trends and the money. Only accept peer reviewed science and do not listen to any thing else. Peer reviewed science come under great scrutiny and is the best source for lay-people like us to find the truth without accumulating a dozen degrees.
Then make your choices. Don't do it out of faith. Science has shown that faith does not work. Don't do it out of some knee jerk reaction. that is dangerous. Take your time. Look at the evidence. try to exclude those on the payroll of big business and big politics. Then you might find something resembling the truth.
We all want to live in a world where the people in power care. Unfortunately, if we are not constantly vigilant, they will care only for their own pocket books and families. It is up to us to make them care.
So, I agree with you. I want to see meaningful change. That can only happen if we the people of the planet earth care enough to educate ourselves as to what is really going on. Otherwise all the do this and do that is so much mental masturbation.

It was once said in a popular science fiction novel, that the human race will go out with a whimper instead of a bang. I truly believe this.

have to find whimper in my dico

whimper is whining submission

thank you !!!
could u believe that i was refused a visa for UK with the argument : speaks basically fluent english ??? i was trying to convince them its far from fluent..nd here u go many words in this discussion are mistery for me however i enjoy the whole idea of us talking about smtg what is a big concern for our generetion..nd future..

Ekaterina, Keep up the good work. You are a sweetheart and we love you. Life is complicated. You are passionate about what you care about and I love that!

u are too ncie to me...however ...thanks

Very funny, I did not get it straight away I thought we were suposed to click on the dates to see what was happening at those times.
Then I realised , very subtle, very clever and to the point.Well spotted

Picks up on your comments earlier about driers in the UK -But dont tar everyone with the same brush, we dont all use driers.

Funny! Ekaterina.

Tomorrow is the day !

......my point was that, apparenty mass consumerism dont make people happy, the reverse is true. - Tracey Long

Yea, but it makes for one helluva yard sale when you get old!