Forum - We CAN make a difference
We CAN make a difference
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On March 29th, 2008 at 8pm local time Earth Hour will commence
ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
Created to take a stand against the greatest threat our planet has ever faced, Earth Hour uses the simple action of turning off the lights for one hour to deliver a POWERFUL MESSAGE about the need for action on global warming.
Be part of making Earth Hour 2008 a huge, global success by telling your friends and family. Remember, every single light makes a statement and makes a difference.
Last year, on 31 March 2007, 2.2 million people and 2100 Sydney (Australia) businesses turned off their lights for one hour – Earth Hour. This massive collective effort reduced Sydney’s energy consumption by 10.2% for one hour, which is the equivalent effect of taking 48,000 cars off the road for one hour.
PLEASE VISIT THE OFFICIAL SITE:
http://www.earthhour.org/
Created to take a stand against the greatest threat our planet has ever faced, Earth Hour uses the simple action of turning off the lights for one hour to deliver a POWERFUL MESSAGE about the need for action on global warming.
Be part of making Earth Hour 2008 a huge, global success by telling your friends and family. Remember, every single light makes a statement and makes a difference.
Last year, on 31 March 2007, 2.2 million people and 2100 Sydney (Australia) businesses turned off their lights for one hour – Earth Hour. This massive collective effort reduced Sydney’s energy consumption by 10.2% for one hour, which is the equivalent effect of taking 48,000 cars off the road for one hour.
PLEASE VISIT THE OFFICIAL SITE:
http://www.earthhour.org/
Wow,
Thanks for the heads up! I'll take a look at the site and book mark it.
Thanks for the heads up! I'll take a look at the site and book mark it.
go for it and just do it 

This is a great idea.
Too bad more people don't think about this more often and do there part daily.
It can all make a difference.
Too bad more people don't think about this more often and do there part daily.
It can all make a difference.
i dont know how many ppl think
about it, but slowly i believe it
reaches everybody of us.we start
noticing lights on...we start using
less water for one or another
reason..we start finding reasons to
go to work or a friend by bike, not
by car...slowly...baby steps, but
the baby grows 

Yeah it makes lot of difference to
do the little things. My wife and I
carpool to work. We turn off
anything not in use. recycle. I
just wish we didn;t live so far
away fro everything. We have to
drive everywhere we go!!
Wicked idea EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS
I have just gone on water meter and cant believe how I recylce reusable water.
I turn of all unessential electricity when not in use inluding all standbies
and only turned on xmas lights for 2 hours a day and for only one week last xmas
I have just gone on water meter and cant believe how I recylce reusable water.
I turn of all unessential electricity when not in use inluding all standbies
and only turned on xmas lights for 2 hours a day and for only one week last xmas
I think the solution to the problem
that is our energy crisis simply
lies within the over population of
the world. If we could find a way
to reduce this without resorting to
genocide then our presence on the
planet is less harmful to it.
Maybe if we could shrink down like in Honey I Shrunk The Kids then the world would in effect be bigger. That does pose the problem of giant insects...
I'll have to have a think.
BUT WAIT! This our thing where every stops using lights or electricity for an hour- is local time local to our countries or our planet? Or star system?
You know if too many people change the channel at the same time there's a power surge and it burns my toast.
Maybe if we could shrink down like in Honey I Shrunk The Kids then the world would in effect be bigger. That does pose the problem of giant insects...
I'll have to have a think.
BUT WAIT! This our thing where every stops using lights or electricity for an hour- is local time local to our countries or our planet? Or star system?
You know if too many people change the channel at the same time there's a power surge and it burns my toast.
True enough Samuel,
I have been a big supporter of zero population growth for about 28 years. I have been preaching it to mostly deaf ears. You get, "well a person should be able to have as many kids as he/she can afford, right?" and "Well the god lord wanted us to be fruitful and multiply, so why can't we?" Unfortunately short-sighted selfishness has gotten us into the predicament. Now we have to find ways as Samuel mentioned, short of genocide, to deal with this.
It is a sad pass to have come to.
I have been a big supporter of zero population growth for about 28 years. I have been preaching it to mostly deaf ears. You get, "well a person should be able to have as many kids as he/she can afford, right?" and "Well the god lord wanted us to be fruitful and multiply, so why can't we?" Unfortunately short-sighted selfishness has gotten us into the predicament. Now we have to find ways as Samuel mentioned, short of genocide, to deal with this.
It is a sad pass to have come to.
we are getting smarter..thats the
problem..we found ways to survive
in different environmen..we fight
more for our lives...before human
life was cheaper, now its not! the
creates different sicknesses,but we
find ways to kill them..
Great Post, cheers.
I don't think population is the key problem here, it is resources being used by the rich countries. Yes I know countries like India and China are now using more than before (especially for industry) but most of these people consume a tiny fraction of what we consume. The big countries like the USA, Japan, the UK, Canada, Germany, France and most of Europe simply need to consume less.
A family doesn't need 3 cars - its convenient thats all. The car doesn't need 4 wheel drive,fuel injection and a 3 liter engine, its just desired. When was the last time you saw a 4 x4 drive up a mountain anyway? I see them driving little Timmy to school half a mile away. I seem to remember walking to the bus stop.
Sorry to rant, but this issue really gets me big time. Turn your light of when ever you don't need it, not just for 1 hour! Does the heating need to be on when you are out? Can you get a bus to work? Yes to all of these things but people just can't be arsed - because essentially they don't care - We say we care, but do we really do anything. Would we care more if it cost us money?
To put it into perspective, people in 1st world countries overall consume 32 times that of people in 3rd world countries. The majority of the world's population are living in 3rd world countries.
I don't think population is the key problem here, it is resources being used by the rich countries. Yes I know countries like India and China are now using more than before (especially for industry) but most of these people consume a tiny fraction of what we consume. The big countries like the USA, Japan, the UK, Canada, Germany, France and most of Europe simply need to consume less.
A family doesn't need 3 cars - its convenient thats all. The car doesn't need 4 wheel drive,fuel injection and a 3 liter engine, its just desired. When was the last time you saw a 4 x4 drive up a mountain anyway? I see them driving little Timmy to school half a mile away. I seem to remember walking to the bus stop.
Sorry to rant, but this issue really gets me big time. Turn your light of when ever you don't need it, not just for 1 hour! Does the heating need to be on when you are out? Can you get a bus to work? Yes to all of these things but people just can't be arsed - because essentially they don't care - We say we care, but do we really do anything. Would we care more if it cost us money?
To put it into perspective, people in 1st world countries overall consume 32 times that of people in 3rd world countries. The majority of the world's population are living in 3rd world countries.
Good points Harry,
We are all guilty of excess. I have to travel alot for photography and I have a big truck and a camper for my long trips. I could get a small car and stay in hotels but I like to sleep in my own space.
In turn my wife and I are designing our home to be built on her family land in North Carolina and I have gone geothermal and solar in design. My hope is to change my truck to biodesiel as it becomes more available.
We are all guilty of excess. I have to travel alot for photography and I have a big truck and a camper for my long trips. I could get a small car and stay in hotels but I like to sleep in my own space.
In turn my wife and I are designing our home to be built on her family land in North Carolina and I have gone geothermal and solar in design. My hope is to change my truck to biodesiel as it becomes more available.
True, Harry, the causes are more
complex than just boiling down to
one issue like population. Although
it doesn't help matters for more
people to be consuming more
resources at an ever increasing
rate, I agree with you that the
richest countries are the worst
offenders. There exists a feeling
of entitlement here in the US. It
makes me mad. Like I mentioned, we
carpool whenever we. Bicycling is
also good and we do that. We almost
never buy paper towels and other
disposable convenience items.
Especially paper plates and
plastic-ware.
One of my biggest issues is that I hate turning off my computer each time I am away. I have this attitude that it goes to sleep, so it uses less energy. The fact is that it still uses energy and I should shut it down when I am not using it.
The news is bleak lately with terms like "Global Warming" "Global Recession" and the like being knocked about in the press. We can all do little things in little ways to make a big difference for every one.
Take care.
One of my biggest issues is that I hate turning off my computer each time I am away. I have this attitude that it goes to sleep, so it uses less energy. The fact is that it still uses energy and I should shut it down when I am not using it.
The news is bleak lately with terms like "Global Warming" "Global Recession" and the like being knocked about in the press. We can all do little things in little ways to make a big difference for every one.
Take care.
I totally agree with you Harry, I
do my best each day to think of new
recycle projects or save resources
both power and water.
I walk locally uo to a mile before using the car.
But I think one of the answers is more of us have to do these things.
Each of us do make a difference but it would be more beneficial if we all did it.
Maybe us as artists could get the message across. Could be idea for new competion.
I walk locally uo to a mile before using the car.
But I think one of the answers is more of us have to do these things.
Each of us do make a difference but it would be more beneficial if we all did it.
Maybe us as artists could get the message across. Could be idea for new competion.
Franklin as for turning off your
computer; when I studied IT (but is
was long time ago) I was informed
to boot up your computer used more
electricity than to leave on
standby.
I dont know whether this has changed with new technology in computers or does this still stand.
Is there any technos out there who could help me here?
What is the best way to conserve power turn off computer or leave on standby during working hours?
Much appreciate an answer folks
I dont know whether this has changed with new technology in computers or does this still stand.
Is there any technos out there who could help me here?
What is the best way to conserve power turn off computer or leave on standby during working hours?
Much appreciate an answer folks
Here is a long winded exlpanation.
Basically energy saver modes use
about 15% of the energy of a
running computer. So turing it off
when not using it for a long time
is useful in thatit isn't using any
energy. According to this site, the
small surge in energy is less of a
drain then leaving it running for a
short amount of time.
I hope this helps.
http://www.eere.e nergy.gov/consumer/your_home/applia nces/index.cfm/mytopic=10070
I hope this helps.
http://www.eere.e nergy.gov/consumer/your_home/applia nces/index.cfm/mytopic=10070
Have a read of this:
ht tp://www.independent.co.uk/news/sci ence/us-censors-arctic-scientists-f indings-as-it-prepares-for-oil-and- gas-auction-771714.html
ht tp://www.independent.co.uk/news/sci ence/us-censors-arctic-scientists-f indings-as-it-prepares-for-oil-and- gas-auction-771714.html
This administration is so horribly
corrupt and morally bankrupt it
isn't even funny. It used to be
that when a President got in that
was incompetent, you'd have a laugh
at him and he would be out next
term. Unfortunately for reasons
discussed fully quite a lot this
bugger stayed around for a second
term. I think he is patently evil.
I think Cheney is even worse.
Every day I sign petitions here trying to drag the corruption of this Government into the light. I sign petitions for them to do something about Darfur. I call my Representatives.I have signed multiple petitions calling for impeachment of these two fools.
It is very frustrating as an AMerican citizen, who loves his country and the Constitution, to see these morons ruining all that makes this country great on a daily basis.
Thanks for the story Harry. I am a member of a couple of conservation groups here and they are also addressing this issue.
I wish I could draw into existence a world without Bus and Cheney or their ilk in it. I guess I will be doing that when I vote this year.
Sigh.
There really are decent Americans who work diligently to right the wrongs our current Government perpetrates on the world.
Every day I sign petitions here trying to drag the corruption of this Government into the light. I sign petitions for them to do something about Darfur. I call my Representatives.I have signed multiple petitions calling for impeachment of these two fools.
It is very frustrating as an AMerican citizen, who loves his country and the Constitution, to see these morons ruining all that makes this country great on a daily basis.
Thanks for the story Harry. I am a member of a couple of conservation groups here and they are also addressing this issue.
I wish I could draw into existence a world without Bus and Cheney or their ilk in it. I guess I will be doing that when I vote this year.
Sigh.
There really are decent Americans who work diligently to right the wrongs our current Government perpetrates on the world.
I think like Franklin says, there
is this feeling that we are
entitled to do what we want at the
expense of the environment. As I
was saying to my partner the other
day, if we didn't eat cows, drink
their milk and make clothes out of
them, then they would be an
endangered species - you would pay
good money to view one in the Zoo
or nature reserve. Instead we have
too many cows which are
contributing to deforestation and
global warming through their farts!
Crazy when you think about it.
Man kind used to respect the land, but for hundreds of years this has changed. My mother to this day thinks flowers are there to be pretty and smell nice and birds are their for our amusement alone. It doesn't occur to her that their genetic code has evolved just as long as ours and they have the same right to exist as we do.
The simple fact is people care more about money than everything else put together. We care more about arbitrary numbers stored in a computer at our banks than the planet as a whole. If peoples incomes were proportional to the state of the environment, the world would be a better place, but it isn't. The people who make the most money, generally make it by trading part of the planets well being, and with their profits they spend it on further destruction.
It saddens me greatly too that people still say global warming isn't happening, or that its natural. I don't know why I'm still talking about the subject but I guess its better to talk about it than not too. Maybe things will change over the next few years - I hope so.
Man kind used to respect the land, but for hundreds of years this has changed. My mother to this day thinks flowers are there to be pretty and smell nice and birds are their for our amusement alone. It doesn't occur to her that their genetic code has evolved just as long as ours and they have the same right to exist as we do.
The simple fact is people care more about money than everything else put together. We care more about arbitrary numbers stored in a computer at our banks than the planet as a whole. If peoples incomes were proportional to the state of the environment, the world would be a better place, but it isn't. The people who make the most money, generally make it by trading part of the planets well being, and with their profits they spend it on further destruction.
It saddens me greatly too that people still say global warming isn't happening, or that its natural. I don't know why I'm still talking about the subject but I guess its better to talk about it than not too. Maybe things will change over the next few years - I hope so.
I am hopeful as well. Awareness is
growing and more and more people
are doing little things to make a
difference. One thing that will
happen and facilitate a paradigm
shift in the way we look at things
is for the old guard to start dying
out. This my sound morbid, but
their psyches are so imprinted with
the old way of thinking, that it is
hard for them to believe this world
is really as small and fragile as
it is. Of course there are
exceptions to this rule.
y wife and I take care of her elderly mother. And it took us two years to convince her to stop asking for us to buy paper plates, plastic cups, and plastic forks, spoons and knives. She couldn't see the harm in it. It was inconceivable to her that these little items could add up to be one big pile of harmful waste. We didn't even try to explain about the gasses emitted as the plastic breaks down.
You are quite right Harry. Those with the most money/power do the most harm. I guess they develop the idea that no matter how bad things get for the rest of us, they will have the means to survive because of their elevated status and power. Too bad for them that if they don't do something, their children will suffer right along side everyone else. Sigh...
Ok Now I am going to go look at pictures of happy fluffy bunnies for a while or something. ;)
y wife and I take care of her elderly mother. And it took us two years to convince her to stop asking for us to buy paper plates, plastic cups, and plastic forks, spoons and knives. She couldn't see the harm in it. It was inconceivable to her that these little items could add up to be one big pile of harmful waste. We didn't even try to explain about the gasses emitted as the plastic breaks down.
You are quite right Harry. Those with the most money/power do the most harm. I guess they develop the idea that no matter how bad things get for the rest of us, they will have the means to survive because of their elevated status and power. Too bad for them that if they don't do something, their children will suffer right along side everyone else. Sigh...
Ok Now I am going to go look at pictures of happy fluffy bunnies for a while or something. ;)
Thanks for the info Franklin, I
havent the time now to check out
your link Ill do it later.
But Im still confused which to do for the best, but I will work something out
Thanks for sharing both Harry and Franklin wicked debate I really do wish I had more time
But Im still confused which to do for the best, but I will work something out
Thanks for sharing both Harry and Franklin wicked debate I really do wish I had more time
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